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RichC
#21 Posted : Wednesday, December 01, 2010 6:27:20 AM Quote
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Good Luck Glenys on your return to work ...
and don't forget there is a lot of help out there aswell :)
Rich
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Rose-B
#22 Posted : Wednesday, December 01, 2010 2:28:15 PM Quote
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Hello Glenys,

Your post is soo similar to mine. I so feel for you as I know how I feel. I am up to 4 hours twice
a week, and like you the other days I am sufferring for what I have done. Also like you I
am working in another office so the pressure is off me. However I maintain that I won't
get back to full time work as a Manager.

Speak again soon

Rose
ceri44
#23 Posted : Thursday, December 02, 2010 3:46:44 PM Quote
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Hi Glenys
Just want to wish you lots of luck back at work, I know what a struggle it is.. I have just reduced my hours again to 3 days a week I used to be a healthcare assist and phlebotomist but can no longer do this so working as a receptionist/admin.. Takes a lot of adjusting too but feel better for going to work even if its just for the social side! What operations have you had on you shoulder? I had a decompression/arthroscopy in July but its made it much worse so wailting to see if I have to have another op, had months of physio and accupuncture but no joy yet!
Good luck again and dont overdo it luv ceri xx
Glenys-H
#24 Posted : Thursday, December 02, 2010 9:29:44 PM Quote
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Hello Ceri, I had the same along with a debridement. I have a calcium deposit, they could not find it in the op but it is large and clear on the xray. That was in August last year but as with you I ended up in a proper pickle. Looking back I think that I may have become infected because I felt ill and it was hot for months after and very sore and like you had loads of physio. I had a repeat op in June which was completely different. I don't think t will be as it was so I'm trying out to see if I can cope at work. During that time I've had three op to do with my peripheral arteries and as we all know the RA flares up often when something like this happens. I hope that you can get sorted. I know that you don't realise how much you use your shoulder until this happens.Thank you for your kind wishes. x
Glenys-H
#25 Posted : Thursday, December 02, 2010 9:35:18 PM Quote
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Thanks Rich for your good wishes. I work for Derbyshire County Council. They are very supportive. I have a review on Monday to check that I'm OK. Glenys.
Rose-B
#26 Posted : Thursday, December 02, 2010 10:12:51 PM Quote
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Good luck for Monday
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#27 Posted : Thursday, December 02, 2010 11:22:38 PM Quote
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Glenys-H wrote:
Hello Ceri, I had the same along with a debridement. I have a calcium deposit, they could not find it in the op but it is large and clear on the xray. That was in August last year but as with you I ended up in a proper pickle. Looking back I think that I may have become infected because I felt ill and it was hot for months after and very sore and like you had loads of physio. I had a repeat op in June which was completely different. I don't think t will be as it was so I'm trying out to see if I can cope at work. During that time I've had three op to do with my peripheral arteries and as we all know the RA flares up often when something like this happens. I hope that you can get sorted. I know that you don't realise how much you use your shoulder until this happens.Thank you for your kind wishes. x

I have calcium deposits as well called Calanois ( may have spelt it wrong ) because i have a mild slceroderma overlap .Christine
The chocolate eating housewife ...The washer woman .....naughty lady
Glenys-H
#28 Posted : Thursday, December 09, 2010 9:34:13 PM Quote
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I had to give in yesterday and didn't go into work. I went in today and felt very guilty about not being there yesterday then I did something even worse. A lady had to go home sick just before I was leaving myself and I still left. this left the cook alone until two more staff came in half an hour later. I feel so guilty that I did it, I've been in that position myself and it's realy bad but I still left her. I was thinking that I had taken the day off because knew I was heading downwards and staying would make me feel so bad, I still can't believe I left and now just feel so bad about it. I'm doing a staged return to work after being off so long and if I mess up I will be out of work. I think my physio was sitting on my shoulder watching me, she had told me she would. I just wish I didn't feel so guilty about it. Glenys.
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#29 Posted : Friday, December 10, 2010 9:37:20 AM Quote
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Hi Glenys

I can feel for you all the way.

I had to phone in sick yesterday and I have done the same today, this is the first time I have had to give in to it.

I was brought up with a strong work ethic by my parents, you do go to school/work even if you are under the weather, if its snowing and can't use transport then you walk.

Unfortunately, these values are instilled in us from an early age and that is why we feel so guilty.

Lets just feel guilty together and maybe our guilt will be halved.

Thinking of you.

Anne x
Glenys-H
#30 Posted : Friday, December 10, 2010 8:23:45 PM Quote
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Thank you Anne, lets do that. It is a help to know that we can share our concerns. X
Rose-B
#31 Posted : Friday, December 10, 2010 11:44:19 PM Quote
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Hello Glenys


Sorry you not feeling good yest or today. You will be in bed now is nearly
mid night.

I am the Worlds worst worrier. but please remember it is you that
has to come to terms and look after your self we only have 1 chance
at this so please do not think you are letting anyone down. The
only alternative would be to let yourself down and we all know what
RA does to us and how it makes us feel.

Chin up/ Hope by the time you read this you will be feeling better


Rose
Glenys-H
#32 Posted : Tuesday, December 14, 2010 9:51:09 PM Quote
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Hello all, I had an appointent at the hospital, a six month check after the shoulder surgery. I was given a steroid injection into the joint, I'm hoping it will help. The surgeon says there is still a lot of infection going on. I'm pretty sore in most places,like many of us at the moment. I was pleased to be able to take the whole day off yesterday so that I only have to work the four days this week. I'm doing four hours each day this week so it's getting harder. Interestingly the Doc said that I shouldn't really be going back to such heavy work. I have to try though. I wish I could find something else, I am still looking. To make matters worse they have suspended my ESA because I had reached 15 hours last week,( I would have but I had to take a sick day last week) I was under the impression that my hours were taken as an average over the time I am taking over my staged return to work. I hope that I can get that sorted. I'm a bit cheesed off about it. Glenys.
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#33 Posted : Wednesday, December 15, 2010 6:44:31 AM Quote
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Hiya Glenys ,

I did not know you were on ESA as i saw no mention of it in the post.
If you do less than 16 hours and earn upto £95 per week , you could ask for it to be considered as "permitted work" Permitted Work
You normally ask the DWP first as to whether this could be accepted as permitted work, however if since your return you have fitted the rules every week , and the time-scale is not too long , it might be possible to ask them to consider this as permitted work retrospectively. So look at the link above and telephone JCP . Might be an idea to get an interview with your local Jobcentre Disability Employment Adviser , or Pathways to work team , as they should have advised you of your options on your continuing return to work.

Remember, claiming ESA , any work other than voluntary, will suspend an ESA claim and possibly cancel it . If you have been receiving ESA , and working any hours , there could be an overpayment of ESA for any weeks you worked. Unless your work was already being considered as Permitted .( you would have been advised of this in writing from the DWP).
Did you tell the DWP /JCP you were starting work , if so what did they say?

If you are working under permitted work rules already the this may be of help .. extract from the DWP Decision Makers guide:-

Example 2
A person with no established cycle who has worked 8, 11, 9, 0 and 17 hours has an average of nine hours (45 hours divided by 5.) This average is applied to the week in which the 17 hours are worked so that the person is not disallowed for that week.


So basically with permitted work rules you can go over 16 hours . as long as when you add up the previous 4 weeks hours , it averages less than 16 hours for that 5 week period.

If you work more than 16 hours (This is averaged over time) then you can claim Working Tax Credits and receive a disability element in your allowances . (payment will depend on other family income)
I am not a lover of Pathways to work as an idea , however if you approach them when you are ready to go to work , they will do everything to ensure you get all you are entitled to , as a lot are "outside providers" they get payment for every claimant they get to work. It should be noted that Job Centre Plus also run Pathways so it may not be the same with them.

Rich


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#34 Posted : Wednesday, December 15, 2010 3:22:46 PM Quote
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Rich has given some great advice there, Glenys. I really do feel for you as I well remember the awful grind of going into work when I could barely get out of bed. I am just wondering if there is anything else you could do which wasn't so physical? Obviously heavy lifting will take its toll on your poor bones. Are you completely recovered from the heart surgery now? I often think about you and wonder how you are. Take care.
Love Jeanxxxx
Glenys-H
#35 Posted : Saturday, December 18, 2010 8:51:42 PM Quote
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Hello Rich thank you for your advice on this subject, you were spot on. I had tried ringing JCP without any luck, they just keep you hanging on. So I waited until I saw my personal adviser about it. I've been seeing her whilst I've been recieving ESA, it is like pathways to work. She was great and after a long time trying she was able to speak to someone at the JCP on my behalf. As you had mentioned I had filled in a form informing them that I was doing a staged return to work under the permitted work rules. They are saying that I had filled in the form wrong. I had thought as you did about the average hours thing and that is right so I hadn't broken any rules and my ESA should not have been suspended. My adviser, her name is Lauren, typed out a letter for me showing them again the hours I have worked and showing them the maths as you had said about the average, this being 28, well under the 16 hours or £95 weekly. She then faxed it to them for me. I hope it is reinstated quickly,this should be within three working days. Thanks again Rich it is important that we post these things that may help others if they have the same problems to deal with. Glenys.
Glenys-H
#36 Posted : Saturday, December 18, 2010 9:07:15 PM Quote
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Hello Jean,it was by-pass surgeryin my illiac arteries and it's not too bad thanks, I still don't have a full blood supply to my legs and I won't have which is sad but we have to get on with things. I'm hoping I've run out of bad luck. It's been a stinker of a week but I only to work two days next week. Thank you for thinking of me. Glenys.x
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